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Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with identical start and finish time. 
I can't compaere their traces.
Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
Dan
Jonathan St. Cloud
August 5th 18, 04:47 PM
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7,  wrote:
> Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with identical start and finish time. 
> I can't compaere their traces.
> Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
> Dan
Perhaps as two they are strong than as one.  I see the long wingers have the top three spots, just as it should be :)
Former long wing driver
Paul T[_4_]
August 5th 18, 11:05 PM
At 14:47 05 August 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
>On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7,  
wrote:
>> Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with
>identical start and finish time. 
>> I can't compaere their traces.
>> Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
>> Dan
>
>Perhaps as two they are strong than as one.  I see the long wingers have
>the top three spots, just as it should be :)
>
>Former long wing driver
>
Pity, you can buy 2 JS1C's for the price of one EB29R..... 4 day wins to
the 
JS1C vs 3 to the EB29R though so far.
Charlie Quebec
August 6th 18, 08:02 AM
And the top 3 currently, EB29.
Some days the highest 18m Class speeds are higher than the highest Open Class speeds - even on the days when the tasks are longer.
Peter F[_2_]
August 6th 18, 10:29 AM
You can't buy talent but you can buy span
At 14:47 05 August 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
>On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7, 
wrote:
>> Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with
>identical start and finish time. 
>> I can't compaere their traces.
>> Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
>> Dan
>
>Perhaps as two they are strong than as one.  I see the long wingers have
>the top three spots, just as it should be :)
>
>Former long wing driver
>
Jonathan St. Cloud
August 6th 18, 04:22 PM
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
> At 14:47 05 August 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> >On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7,  
> wrote:
> >> Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with
> >identical start and finish time. 
> >> I can't compaere their traces.
> >> Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
> >> Dan
> >
> >Perhaps as two they are strong than as one.  I see the long wingers have
> >the top three spots, just as it should be :)
> >
> >Former long wing driver
> >
> 
> Pity, you can buy 2 JS1C's for the price of one EB29R..... 4 day wins to
> the 
> JS1C vs 3 to the EB29R though so far.
So, it is the OPEN class.  This is the class that historically pushed the technology. My Nimbus 4 was $75K versus $40K for my ASW-24.  Worth every penny, the long wingers just have reach that ...  well go fly one, amazing.
Craig Funston[_3_]
August 6th 18, 10:47 PM
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 7:22:31 AM UTC-7, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
> > At 14:47 05 August 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> > >On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7,  
> > wrote:
> > >> Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with
> > >identical start and finish time. 
> > >> I can't compaere their traces.
> > >> Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
> > >> Dan
> > >
> > >Perhaps as two they are strong than as one.  I see the long wingers have
> > >the top three spots, just as it should be :)
> > >
> > >Former long wing driver
> > >
> > 
> > Pity, you can buy 2 JS1C's for the price of one EB29R..... 4 day wins to
> > the 
> > JS1C vs 3 to the EB29R though so far.
> 
> So, it is the OPEN class.  This is the class that historically pushed the technology. My Nimbus 4 was $75K versus $40K for my ASW-24.  Worth every penny, the long wingers just have reach that ...  well go fly one, amazing.
I'm a big fan of long wings too. Pretty sure Michael Sommer and Felipe Levin aren't winning just because they have longer wings.
Jonathan St. Cloud
August 7th 18, 05:23 PM
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 1:30:08 AM UTC-7, Peter F wrote:
> You can't buy talent but you can buy span
> 
> 
> 
> At 14:47 05 August 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> >On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7, 
> wrote:
> >> Check these 2  Czech pilots flying an EB 29R and the other a JS1C, with
> >identical start and finish time. 
> >> I can't compaere their traces.
> >> Did the long wing glider sacrifice to help the shorter wing glider ?
> >> Dan
> >
> >Perhaps as two they are strong than as one.  I see the long wingers have
> >the top three spots, just as it should be :)
> >
> >Former long wing driver
> >
You can buy performance, but it takes finesse, skill, knowledge to fly a long winger.  Where they shine is one can effectively dolphin fly and when you have 20-30 miles to go glide to get to the next lift source, the long wingers can reach out.
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